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#21 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 7:31:49 AM(UTC)
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In fact I am always surprised nobody has called me anything because of my items.


I've called you the worst warrior to ever play this game EVEN with your items.
So your statement = invalid.


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#22 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 7:42:10 AM(UTC)
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@DashtonFatNUgly, sufficient evidence for you may not be enough for others. I consider myself to be quite skeptical so I would require evidence of his hacking. I never denied that Ifailed=Dashton. What I am asking evidence for is Dashton hacking. The fact that nobody has shown that he hacks is insufficient evidence for to me call him a hacker. Also, it would be irrational/counter-intuitive to defend hackers/scammers. Also, is your native language English? because you don't seem to be understanding my rebuttals; I have repeated (rather explicitly) several times that I am not supporting hackers or scammers, I am trying to prevent false accusations (see WhiteShield9 post). Also, calling me a troll and considering me as supporting the hacker/scammers does not prove anything. The fact that you attack me personally rather than tackle the issue like everybody else proves that your just a troll following the hype. I'd assume your the type of person who is gullible enough to believe everything your told. How about you offer constructive rebuttals like what Chips and WhiteShield are doing, rather than attacking me.


The funny thing is I understand them better than you would hope. You are purposely defending a KNOWN hacker and trying to instill doubt into people thereby defending said known hacker/scammer. That constitutes as you being a TROLL. And I have no qualms in personally attacking trolls.
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#23 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 8:54:35 AM(UTC)
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Lol Seemen and DashtonFatNUgly, you both seem more concerned with me than with the issue at hand. It seems I am threatening your sense of security over the issue. That's ok, you can call me what you like and attack me. I didn't say you didn't understand them, I don't know where you got that from. Again, DashtonFatNUgly your avoiding my statements, you keep saying I am defending them, I am not defending them I am just saying there is inconclusive evidence for ME to classify him as a hacker. This is not "trolling", this is just how I see it. You can say several screenshots and statements he makes will be evidence enough for you. But for me I need to see him actually hacking. Let me give you an analogy; some people say they see God, or have spoken to Him, others require visual evidence and not testimonials to confirm the existence. I consider myself to be the latter. @Seemen, my statement is still valid, there was nothing to invalidate in it, so stop spewing bs. It doesn't matter in the slightest to me whether you consider me "noob" or "pro", these things do not affect how I feel about my virtual identity as much as it does you.
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#24 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 9:20:26 AM(UTC)
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Lol Seemen and DashtonFatNUgly, you both seem more concerned with me than with the issue at hand. It seems I am threatening your sense of security over the issue. That's ok, you can call me what you like and attack me. I didn't say you didn't understand them, I don't know where you got that from. Again, DashtonFatNUgly your avoiding my statements, you keep saying I am defending them, I am not defending them I am just saying there is inconclusive evidence for ME to classify him as a hacker. This is not "trolling", this is just how I see it. You can say several screenshots and statements he makes will be evidence enough for you. But for me I need to see him actually hacking. Let me give you an analogy; some people say they see God, or have spoken to Him, others require visual evidence and not testimonials to confirm the existence. I consider myself to be the latter. @Seemen, my statement is still valid, there was nothing to invalidate in it, so stop spewing bs. It doesn't matter in the slightest to me whether you consider me "noob" or "pro", these things do not affect how I feel about my virtual identity as much as it does you.


More concerned with you? o.o
Self-centered much?

1 post concerning you, and 1 concerning the Nigger.

*Was in the other post*
And yes, it does invalidate it.
You said no one has called you anything and I disproved that.

Edited by user Saturday, July 7, 2012 9:23:12 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#25 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 9:48:42 AM(UTC)
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@Seemen, I meant nobody has called me anything in terms of hacking/scamming based on the items I possess. It could be me being self-centred but it does not change the fact that the original post was solely about Dashton. The fact you direct insults at me changes that. I post rebuttals and questions to understand to what amount of evidence or quality of evidence is required for players to consider the spreading of information. I just want to find out how and why Dashton is called a hacker, all I get are, GENERALLY speaking: "yes, he's a hacker I have proof he hacked somebody therefore he's a hacker and you should believe me or your an ignorant idiot who tries to defend hackers". When asked for evidence of his hacking activities, everybody is reluctant to provide any if at all. Some people might stop here and begin to question my position on the thread (like you and DashtonFatNUgly have done), which is completely irrelevant to proving whether or not Dashton has hacked anybody. So far as I know there has been no explicit proof that he hacks, he even denied such question when asked by Chips.
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#26 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 10:06:29 AM(UTC)
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You're probably a newfag so you wouldn't know that he was on an account with a mage named Infantry.


*Skip to 1:30 for his 1h KO hack*
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#27 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 10:19:32 AM(UTC)
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#28 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 10:22:00 AM(UTC)
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You're probably a newfag so you wouldn't know that he was on an account with a mage named Infantry.


*Skip to 1:30 his 1h KO hack
proof im "Infantry"?
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#29 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 10:29:32 AM(UTC)
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Lol Seemen and DashtonFatNUgly, you both seem more concerned with me than with the issue at hand. It seems I am threatening your sense of security over the issue. That's ok, you can call me what you like and attack me. I didn't say you didn't understand them, I don't know where you got that from. Again, DashtonFatNUgly your avoiding my statements, you keep saying I am defending them, I am not defending them I am just saying there is inconclusive evidence for ME to classify him as a hacker. This is not "trolling", this is just how I see it. You can say several screenshots and statements he makes will be evidence enough for you. But for me I need to see him actually hacking. Let me give you an analogy; some people say they see God, or have spoken to Him, others require visual evidence and not testimonials to confirm the existence. I consider myself to be the latter. @Seemen, my statement is still valid, there was nothing to invalidate in it, so stop spewing bs. It doesn't matter in the slightest to me whether you consider me "noob" or "pro", these things do not affect how I feel about my virtual identity as much as it does you.


If 90% of the Rakion community KNOW he hacks, odds are he hacks. I don't see why he has to accommodate you by waiting for you to get on, waiting for you to join his room and hacking right in front of your face to prove to you that he hacks. As I said before and you don't quite seem to get this through your trollish skull, you ARE defending him by saying there is even a 1% chance he doesn't hack.
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#30 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 11:06:38 AM(UTC)
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You're probably a newfag so you wouldn't know that he was on an account with a mage named Infantry.


*Skip to 1:30 his 1h KO hack
proof im "Infantry"?


Chronocock asked for proof that Dashton was a hacker, I showed him the video.

I never made connections with you, but you made one yourself.
Are you saying you're Niggercock?
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#31 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 11:41:24 AM(UTC)
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@DashtonFatNUgly, making up statistics does not help your case. It seems your the one with the thick skull, I am not asking for anybody to wait for me to "catch on", I am just pointing out the fact that one must be skeptical when it comes to substantial claims. Your trying to make a problem within a problem, while I am just trying to find proof for myself to justify me labelling him as a hacker. I am not asking for anybody to wait for me. Also, you think I am defending him only because your drowned within your own beliefs that when anybody tries to threaten them you go all defensive on them. Again your statistics are made up to reinforce your beliefs. Truth is nobody gives 2 cents of Dashton or the hacking issues as long as they don't get hacked. I'd go even further to say that 80% of the population don't even know what Dashton is because apparently only older players know the full details.

@Seemen, you showed me a video of a mage and a warrior fighting, the mage is clearly hacking. If you want I can find you more videos like that on Youtube. Point is, you didn't prove sht. Also, I have no idea wtf your talking about in your second sentence.

@Seemen & DashtonFatNUgly, I honestly don't know what you want from me, all I am asking from the community is proof for hacking so that I know for sure. I don't understand why you must post rebuttals and call me a troll just because I don't believe things as easily as you two. If you can't provide the proof that's ok, let somebody else who is more capable to do so. If nobody can, then I'll be left to my own devices. Why is it that you feel like you must call me out and convince me (forcefully rather) that he hacks without proof? The crazy is strong within you two.
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#32 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 12:24:54 PM(UTC)
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@DashtonFatNUgly, making up statistics does not help your case. It seems your the one with the thick skull, I am not asking for anybody to wait for me to "catch on", I am just pointing out the fact that one must be skeptical when it comes to substantial claims. Your trying to make a problem within a problem, while I am just trying to find proof for myself to justify me labelling him as a hacker. I am not asking for anybody to wait for me. Also, you think I am defending him only because your drowned within your own beliefs that when anybody tries to threaten them you go all defensive on them. Again your statistics are made up to reinforce your beliefs. Truth is nobody gives 2 cents of Dashton or the hacking issues as long as they don't get hacked. I'd go even further to say that 80% of the population don't even know what Dashton is because apparently only older players know the full details.

@Seemen, you showed me a video of a mage and a warrior fighting, the mage is clearly hacking. If you want I can find you more videos like that on Youtube. Point is, you didn't prove sht. Also, I have no idea wtf your talking about in your second sentence.

@Seemen & DashtonFatNUgly, I honestly don't know what you want from me, all I am asking from the community is proof for hacking so that I know for sure. I don't understand why you must post rebuttals and call me a troll just because I don't believe things as easily as you two. If you can't provide the proof that's ok, let somebody else who is more capable to do so. If nobody can, then I'll be left to my own devices. Why is it that you feel like you must call me out and convince me (forcefully rather) that he hacks without proof? The crazy is strong within you two.


That's why I said before the video "You're a newfag so you probably wouldn't know."

Also, the post after that is in plain English.
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#33 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 1:51:12 PM(UTC)
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Chonofer wrote:
@DashtonFatNUgly, making up statistics does not help your case. It seems your the one with the thick skull, I am not asking for anybody to wait for me to "catch on", I am just pointing out the fact that one must be skeptical when it comes to substantial claims. Your trying to make a problem within a problem, while I am just trying to find proof for myself to justify me labelling him as a hacker. I am not asking for anybody to wait for me. Also, you think I am defending him only because your drowned within your own beliefs that when anybody tries to threaten them you go all defensive on them. Again your statistics are made up to reinforce your beliefs. Truth is nobody gives 2 cents of Dashton or the hacking issues as long as they don't get hacked. I'd go even further to say that 80% of the population don't even know what Dashton is because apparently only older players know the full details.

@Seemen, you showed me a video of a mage and a warrior fighting, the mage is clearly hacking. If you want I can find you more videos like that on Youtube. Point is, you didn't prove sht. Also, I have no idea wtf your talking about in your second sentence.

@Seemen & DashtonFatNUgly, I honestly don't know what you want from me, all I am asking from the community is proof for hacking so that I know for sure. I don't understand why you must post rebuttals and call me a troll just because I don't believe things as easily as you two. If you can't provide the proof that's ok, let somebody else who is more capable to do so. If nobody can, then I'll be left to my own devices. Why is it that you feel like you must call me out and convince me (forcefully rather) that he hacks without proof? The crazy is strong within you two.


I don't like trash defending hackers/scammers. Simple as that.
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#34 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 2:10:34 PM(UTC)
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@Seemen, then stop wasting space with your pointless post which doesn't contribute to the thread.

@DashtonFatNUgly, you see it as me defending hackers, I see it as me trying to figure out if the claims are true. Your posts just show that instead of proving to me with solid evidence you try to steer me away from trying to find proof by personal attacks, because you have no solid proof.

'nough said, both of you are just trolls and it's a waste of time making rebuttals to your posts. Your ignorance towards my motives are nothing more than a little shield you hide behind so you can hold onto your little beliefs. Try analyzing claims before you throw yourselves at it. I will not be responding to your posts no more, you may wish to continue calling me names or even go further as to make rumours about me (I wouldn't put it past you two), but I will still be looking for 100% legit solid evidence of his hacking activities. As in real life court: "innocent until proven guilty".

Have a nice day.
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@Seemen, then stop wasting space with your pointless post which doesn't contribute to the thread.

@DashtonFatNUgly, you see it as me defending hackers, I see it as me trying to figure out if the claims are true. Your posts just show that instead of proving to me with solid evidence you try to steer me away from trying to find proof by personal attacks, because you have no solid proof.

'nough said, both of you are just trolls and it's a waste of time making rebuttals to your posts. Your ignorance towards my motives are nothing more than a little shield you hide behind so you can hold onto your little beliefs. Try analyzing claims before you throw yourselves at it. I will not be responding to your posts no more, you may wish to continue calling me names or even go further as to make rumours about me (I wouldn't put it past you two), but I will still be looking for 100% legit solid evidence of his hacking activities. As in real life court: "innocent until proven guilty".

Have a nice day.


In conclusion, it's anyone's fault you're a newfag that doesn't know shit and ignore the obvious fact that everyone already knows but you.
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#36 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 6:02:42 PM(UTC)
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seriouslly kids you are nolifers :D
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#37 Posted : Saturday, July 7, 2012 6:55:51 PM(UTC)
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Euro boy, all these posts don't even come close to your spammed 86 posts. :P
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